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    Crash preferenze di sitema... ma non succedeva solo con win??

    Salve!
    mi sto sbattendo da qualche giorno per far andare il mio mac sulla rete dell'uni, la soluzione adottata da molti è stata installare authoxy che dovrebbe far funzionare anche skype, pur non essendo possibile impostare un proxy su questo.

    Nelle preferenze-network-ethernet integrata-proxy- HTTP c'è sempre il tick su: il server richiede una password, quando cerco di toglierlo la finestra delle preferenze crasha. questo è il log dell'errore

    Date/Time: 2007-09-29 14:23:24.132 +0100
    OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R2232)
    Report Version: 4

    Command: System Preferences
    Path: /Applications/System Preferences.app/Contents/MacOS/System Preferences
    Parent: WindowServer [60]

    Version: 3.5 (3.5)
    Build Version: 33
    Project Name: SystemPrefsApp
    Source Version: 1260600

    PID: 14281
    Thread: 0

    Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
    Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

    Thread 0 Crashed:
    0 ...ple.framework.NetworkConfig 0x9472af63 -[ProxyPassword removePassword:] + 147
    1 ...ple.framework.NetworkConfig 0x94724878 -[NetCfgProxyPrefs removeProxyPasswordnlyIfCreated:] + 89
    2 com.apple.preference.network 0x151e685f 0x151c0000 + 157791
    3 com.apple.AppKit 0x93360d88 -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 107
    4 com.apple.AppKit 0x93360ce1 -[NSControl sendAction:to:] + 101
    5 com.apple.AppKit 0x93362e91 -[NSCell _sendActionFrom:] + 168
    6 com.apple.AppKit 0x93375671 -[NSCell trackMouse:inRectfView:untilMouseUp:] + 1271
    7 com.apple.AppKit 0x9339325d -[NSButtonCell trackMouse:inRectfView:untilMouseUp:] + 848
    8 com.apple.AppKit 0x93392b0d -[NSControl mouseDown:] + 757
    9 com.apple.AppKit 0x933503af -[NSWindow sendEvent:] + 5279
    10 com.apple.AppKit 0x93342350 -[NSApplication sendEvent:] + 5023
    11 com.apple.systempreferences 0x00007b53 0x1000 + 27475
    12 com.apple.AppKit 0x9326cdfe -[NSApplication run] + 547
    13 com.apple.AppKit 0x93260d2f NSApplicationMain + 573
    14 com.apple.systempreferences 0x0000e426 0x1000 + 54310
    15 com.apple.systempreferences 0x0000e34d 0x1000 + 54093

    Thread 1:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90029f0c wait4 + 12
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 _pthread_body + 84

    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
    eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x9472aede ecx: 0x15365b28 edx: 0x00000008
    edi: 0x1536b894 esi: 0xbffff658 ebp: 0xbffff678 esp: 0xbffff610
    ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x9472af63 cs: 0x00000017
    ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

    Binary Images Description:
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    Model: MacBook2,1, BootROM MB21.00A5.B07, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.16 GHz, 1 GB
    Graphics: Intel GMA 950, GMA 950, Built-In, spdisplays_integrated_vram
    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
    Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x87), 1.1.9.3
    Bluetooth: Version 1.9.0f8, 2 service, 0 devices, 2 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Ethernet integrata, Ethernet, en0
    Network Service: Parallels Host-Guest, Ethernet, en2
    Network Service: Parallels NAT, Ethernet, en3
    Serial ATA Device: ST9160821AS, 149.05 GB
    Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-857E
    USB Device: Built-in iSight, Micron, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: IR Receiver, Apple Computer, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, Apple Computer, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, Apple, Inc., Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
    lo fa tutte le volte... cosa posso fare per correggere il problema? magari è questo crash a non farmi connettere....
    vi prego chiunque ne capisca qualcosa mi dia una mano perchè non so proprio cosa fare

  2. #2
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    Crash sistema.. cosa faccio?

    salve a tutti!
    avevo già postato questa domanda un po' di tempo fa ma nessuna risposta...riprovo...

    quando vado su preferenze di sistema, reti, ethernet, proxy trovo un segno di spunta in "il proxy richiede una password" riferito ad http. provo a togliere la spunta e le preferenze crashano. se volete posto il log dell'errore.
    ho aggiornato tutto ho riparato i permessi del disco, ammesso che il problema fosse questo.
    avete qualche idea? non so proprio cosa fare... non ho neanche i cd di osx cn me...
    grazie a tutti
    ciao

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    se dovesse capitare a qualcunaltro... ho risolto facendo una rchivia e installa e specificando di eliminare i vecchi utenti, le vecchie impostazioni di rete... non ricordo esattamente l'opzione ma tanto è l'unica possibile se fate archivia e installa.
    ciaoo

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    se dovesse capitare a qualcunaltro... ho risolto facendo una rchivia e installa e specificando di eliminare i vecchi utenti, le vecchie impostazioni di rete... non ricordo esattamente l'opzione ma tanto è l'unica possibile se fate archivia e installa.
    ciaoo

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    Se si installano robe che vanno a modificare le preferenze di sistema gestite da OS X un crash può accadere più spesso di quanto non si voglia.

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    ...mh... tipo...? non ho idea di quale programma posa essere stato, hai qualche idea?
    ciao cesare

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